Sherie Griffiths

November 29, 2011

‘Why do you need to know that?’ – asking customers potentially intrusive questions

In the early days of my legal training, I was taught to tread very carefully when I was interviewing clients. The nature of the job is such that sometimes, you have to ask some quite intrusive questions. One very important aspect of doing that without the client storming out in a huff is explaining why you need to know. Yes, some people will still stone wall you, but most will understand and give you the information you need.

I sometimes think people on the commercial frontline – in call centres etc – should be given that training.

My mother is eighty-four years old and housebound. Her challenges are all physical – mentally, aside from the odd memory lapse (which she acknowledges and even laughs at) she’s as sharp as she ever was.

Because going out shopping on her own isn’t possible any more, she buys quite a lot from catalogues. A few weeks ago, a new book dropped through her letter-box, which included some fantastic Christmas gift ideas, for members of the family who are normally really difficult to buy for. There was even something for my fussy brother – and it was all reasonably priced!

So Mum set about making a list. Then she called the 0844 number.

First issue: it went to a call centre which was obviously overseas. The line was poor and the operator had a strong accent, making it difficult for Mum to hear everything she said.

Second issue: Mum is old-school. She doesn’t like credit. So she wanted to pay for everything on her card, there and then. That, she thought, should make the process very simple. Not so!

The operator started asking her a long list of questions:
‘Full name?’ – fine, thought Mum;
‘Address?’ – no problem;
‘Date of birth’ – not sure why that’s relevant – but ok;
‘Age?’ – hang on, Mum thought at this point, didn’t I just give you my date of birth? Are you checking my mathematical powers – or are you the one that can’t work it out?!

When the girl got on to who owned the house, Mum flipped. Why on earth, she wanted to know, was it necessary to ask that when she wasn’t applying for credit?

 

I suspect that (and other frankly cheeky questions) was designed to build a picture of the average customer they were attracting, so they could channel the information into future marketing.  I know that because I do it myself (within reason) – as I’m sure you do – but my mother has no business experience, so all she knew was that some young kid miles from these shores was being rude for no apparent reason~! 

 

Did the call centre operative explain why she needed all this apparently irrelevant information? Of course she did – she said quite clearly, ‘I have to ask – you want to set up an account and it’s on the form’.

Eventually, Mum had had enough. I came in in the middle of what was becoming an increasingly heated exchange and she handed me the phone.

To cut a long story short, I tried to explain to the voice at the other end that Mum simply wanted to understand why such indepth questioning was necessary when she didn’t want credit. Why did it matter who owned her house when she was paying upfront?

All I got back was, ‘I need to set up an account and the questions are on the form’.

In the end, the perator became very snappy and Mum and I decided it was timeMum to put the phone down. She’d find what she wanted elsewhere.

So the catalogue company lost not only that order but any future orders she might have made. They also ensured she’d tell her entire social circle not to borther with them!

Most of us have to ask potentially tricky tricky questions of our customers at some point; but if they understand why, generally they’ll be happy to answer. More to the point, if we’re delegating the task to someone else, I’d have thought it was pretty essential that they should understand why they’re asking the questions in front of them! This girl clearly had no idea.

As for the overseas call centre issue – and the dodgy phone line – well, that’s another rant, for another time.

January 17, 2011

Announcing the ‘OOPSes’

Awards’ season is in full swing, on both sides of the Atlantic; but forget The Golden Globes, the National Television Awards and even tomorrow’s BAFTA nominations. The only awards that really matter on a wet Monday are the ‘OOPSes’, for ‘outstanding communication by a business’.

Never heard of them?!

Well, that’s not really surprising – I only came up with the idea on Friday!

No, this isn’t another mutual admiration society or self-congratulation fest. In fact, I don’t think the competition is going to be hot – except maybe not to win – because these awards are for outstandingly bad communication!

All the winner will get is a bit of negative publicity. The rest of us get a laugh at their expense, though – and maybe a bit of self-congratulation, as we think smugly:
‘We’d never do THAT!’ – although you know what they say – ‘pride comes before a fall’…

Over the weekend, I couldn’t decide whether they should be the ‘Shoot Yourself In The Foot’ awards or the ‘Open Mouth, Insert Foot’. The nominations I’ve seen over the past week fall into both categories – and both conjure up great ideas for a trophy!

For the moment, let’s stick with the ‘OOPSes’ – unless you’ve got a better idea? I’m open to suggestions.

Ideally, I’d like to make this a weekly, rather than an annual event – so I’d love to get your nominations. We could have some fun with it, voting for the best – or rather, the worst – on a Friday afternoon. You could always nominate anonymously – but why waste an opportunity to vent your frustration?!

To kick things off, I have to congratulate a catalogue company – Oxendales – for making it so difficult for customers to pay their bills by phone!

My Mum bought some items from them before Christmas and last week, her bill needed to be paid. According to the catalogue, all she had to do was call, press 2 when requested – and within minutes, her account would be settled.

Sounds great, doesn’t it?

What actually happened when she pressed 2 was that she was taken through to an automated payment system, which asked her to speak her account details – then kept telling her ‘I’m sorry, I didn’t quite hear that’. She tried four times, before losing her patience.

When I saw her later in the day and she told me about her frustration, I tried – but I gave up on the second attempt. Waiting in a queue for several minutes, while my phone-bill steadily mounted, was better than arguing with the automatic payments clerk!

I have to say that as soon as I managed to reach a human being, who was UK-based, the process was incredibly straightforward – but I don’t think my eighty-three-year-old mother will be in a rush to buy anything else from this particular catalogue – especially when there are plenty more to choose from.

Good on Oxendales for employing call centre staff who are so friendly and helpful – but please, go back and look at your voice recognition system – because it really isn’t working right now!

March 2, 2010

“On Sound Foundations” – The Story Of A Book

Just before Christmas, a colleague said to me, “I bet you’ll be glad to see the back of this year, won’t you?” I knew what she meant – 2009 had been tough for most of us in business and I’d had some major personal challenges thrown in. Yet I hesitated over my answer. Yes, there were moments I’d rather not remember and definitely wouldn’t want to relive, but for all that, it had been an incredibly productive year for me. I’m not talking financially, but in terms of focus. In August, in the middle of a family issue which very nearly led me to throw in the towel in business, I finally broke down a personal barrier which had held me back in every area of my life – very liberating! Then in November, sixteen months on from opening and six months after the official launch, I finally worked out what my business was all about. “Wasn’t that a bit late?” I hear you ask – and you’ve got a point. Better late than never though!

At 5.00am on 6th November 2009, after yet another sleepless night, wondering why I seemed to be working my socks – and various bits of my anatomy – off just to stand still, I stood in my kitchen, coffee pot in hand and it hit me – no, not the coffee pot – the revelation! THE ANSWER! “EUREKA!” The lights went on and I saw it all – where I’d been going wrong, how to put it right – and more!

“So that’s my core skill! I thought, amazed – “I know how sound works!” Here I was, more than a year and a half after my decision to make the leap – and leap it certainly was – from law into business podcasting, finally realising that I know how sound works. Yes, I am a bit slow – especially at five in the morning!

The truth is, I knew how sound worked, how people used it and what it could do if they used it properly long before that moment – I just didn’t know that I knew. As I poured that much needed first cup of coffee, pieces of a jigsaw which had been floating around my head for nearly two years, never quite forming a picture, suddenly clicked into place and I saw the image clearly – the image of my business, how it came to be and where it could go. I spent the next several weeks redesigning services to fit that picture.

Before 6th November, the most positive response I had to my marketing efforts tended to be, “I’m really interested in what you do, but I don’t get it.” Now it’s, “I’m really interested in what you do – when can we talk?” Like most of the changes I made to our offering, it’s a small shift on the face of it – with a huge impact.

Nineteen years ago, someone said, “You should write a book” – but I was only twenty-three then and probably knew even less about life than I did about writing. So although I gave it a go, it didn’t happen. In November last year, I was planning a series of books about starting and running a business; but after that 5.00am “EUREKA!” moment, they were pushed aside by something else which insisted on being written “NOW!!!” From a pure business perspective, the timing was all wrong. I should have waited until we were truly out of recession, until the company was more established. In fact, I probably should have waited until I retired, but this book would brook no argument – the words fell out faster than I could type! The baby was coming, whether I or anyone around me liked it or not!

It started life as a practical guide to business podcasting, against a background of my experience as a lifelong media junky and obsessive communicator; but it evolved into the story of my forty-year apprenticeship in sound – the foundations on which my company and everything we now do is built. It also tells the very personal story of my development of the “womble” principle – of which, more later.

I finished the book last Thursday evening. Over the next couple of months, as I prepare for publication, I’m going to tell you a bit about how it came together and some of the things I learnt from writing it – because I did learn. Two people, both dear friends and close colleagues, have been slightly less than fulsome in their support for the project. I think that’s mainly because they’re applying cost/benefit analysis principles, looking at the amount of time this kind of undertaking demands, against the likely financial return. On that basis, I’ve just “wasted” three and a half months of evenings and weekends – but I know I haven’t. Even if no-one else ever reads the finished product, it was worth writing because it helped me work out what I’m about, how I got here and where I’m going.

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