Sherie Griffiths

November 29, 2011

‘Why do you need to know that?’ – asking customers potentially intrusive questions

In the early days of my legal training, I was taught to tread very carefully when I was interviewing clients. The nature of the job is such that sometimes, you have to ask some quite intrusive questions. One very important aspect of doing that without the client storming out in a huff is explaining why you need to know. Yes, some people will still stone wall you, but most will understand and give you the information you need.

I sometimes think people on the commercial frontline – in call centres etc – should be given that training.

My mother is eighty-four years old and housebound. Her challenges are all physical – mentally, aside from the odd memory lapse (which she acknowledges and even laughs at) she’s as sharp as she ever was.

Because going out shopping on her own isn’t possible any more, she buys quite a lot from catalogues. A few weeks ago, a new book dropped through her letter-box, which included some fantastic Christmas gift ideas, for members of the family who are normally really difficult to buy for. There was even something for my fussy brother – and it was all reasonably priced!

So Mum set about making a list. Then she called the 0844 number.

First issue: it went to a call centre which was obviously overseas. The line was poor and the operator had a strong accent, making it difficult for Mum to hear everything she said.

Second issue: Mum is old-school. She doesn’t like credit. So she wanted to pay for everything on her card, there and then. That, she thought, should make the process very simple. Not so!

The operator started asking her a long list of questions:
‘Full name?’ – fine, thought Mum;
‘Address?’ – no problem;
‘Date of birth’ – not sure why that’s relevant – but ok;
‘Age?’ – hang on, Mum thought at this point, didn’t I just give you my date of birth? Are you checking my mathematical powers – or are you the one that can’t work it out?!

When the girl got on to who owned the house, Mum flipped. Why on earth, she wanted to know, was it necessary to ask that when she wasn’t applying for credit?

 

I suspect that (and other frankly cheeky questions) was designed to build a picture of the average customer they were attracting, so they could channel the information into future marketing.  I know that because I do it myself (within reason) – as I’m sure you do – but my mother has no business experience, so all she knew was that some young kid miles from these shores was being rude for no apparent reason~! 

 

Did the call centre operative explain why she needed all this apparently irrelevant information? Of course she did – she said quite clearly, ‘I have to ask – you want to set up an account and it’s on the form’.

Eventually, Mum had had enough. I came in in the middle of what was becoming an increasingly heated exchange and she handed me the phone.

To cut a long story short, I tried to explain to the voice at the other end that Mum simply wanted to understand why such indepth questioning was necessary when she didn’t want credit. Why did it matter who owned her house when she was paying upfront?

All I got back was, ‘I need to set up an account and the questions are on the form’.

In the end, the perator became very snappy and Mum and I decided it was timeMum to put the phone down. She’d find what she wanted elsewhere.

So the catalogue company lost not only that order but any future orders she might have made. They also ensured she’d tell her entire social circle not to borther with them!

Most of us have to ask potentially tricky tricky questions of our customers at some point; but if they understand why, generally they’ll be happy to answer. More to the point, if we’re delegating the task to someone else, I’d have thought it was pretty essential that they should understand why they’re asking the questions in front of them! This girl clearly had no idea.

As for the overseas call centre issue – and the dodgy phone line – well, that’s another rant, for another time.

October 25, 2011

How strong is the heart of your business?

On last Thursday’s radio show, my guest was Ivan Newman, founder and Managing Director of Brand Excellence consultancy Living Inside The Brand and the author of ‘Put Brand at the Heart of Your Business and Watch it Grow’. He was in to talk about the five essentials of branding.

We’ve worked together before. We made a series of audio-visual podcasts on various aspects of customer service. In each of those, Ivan illustrated his points with anecdotes – so it came as no surprise to me when he did something similar on the radio.

All the examples in the podcasts had been real, but just before we went on air on Thursday, he came up with the idea for a fictional business, which we could brand on the spot. Gateway Oven-cleaners was a simple model – their operatives would come into your home, clean your oven, and leave. ‘So what’s to brand?’ I hear you ask! Yes, well, I was asking the same question. The answer is: more than you imagine.

The five essentials which Ivan set out were: ‘Vision, Mission, values, promise and personality’. He then proceeded to look at each one in turn, in relation to our instantly created oven-cleaning company

By the end of the show, we had a team of uniformed cleaners (I did point out they couldn’t keep their uniforms spick and span if they were going from one oven to the next –but naturally, Ivan had the answer: ‘overalls’!). Their vision was to leave the customer with restored pride in their newly shined ovens; their mission was to save the customer time and grime; their values included safety – of the products and the people (I’d never have thought of oven-cleaners being CRB checked, but obviously for any vulnerable customers that would be very reassuring); their promise was to achieve it all quickly and efficiently; and their personality?

Now, I thought that was all about how friendly they were etc. That was part of it – but there was more to it than that. Our oven-cleaners were ‘defenders’, Ivan decided – defending us against encroaching dirt – hence the uniforms.

Speaking as someone whose oven keeps giving her reproachful looks every time I open the door – and who keeps looking away – because I HATE cleaning the oven! – I wish someone would take Ivan’s ideas and run with them. I NEED that company!

If you missed the show but want to know more about branding your own business, Ivan is going to be back on the radio very soon, with a new monthly series: ‘The Brand Doctor’. We’re running a pilot edition in December (I’ve volunteered to take the first spoonful of medicine!)  We’ll be looking at my own new brand, which launches this Monday, 31st October. we’ve already got a booking for the January show – but after that, it’s all yours. I’m acting as Doctor’s receptionist (but I promise not to be fierce!), so if you want a consultation, just let me know and I’ll book you an appointment.

This week’s programme is another change of direction (one thing I love about the Enterprise Gateway is the variety). I’m talking ‘amazing support’ – no, I haven’t got Gok Wan on the show – yet! – and there’s no LYCRA involved … So what am I on about? Well, you’ll have to listen on Thursday afternoon, won’t you? 3PM on Gateway 97.8 FM in Basildon and East Thurrock, or at gateway978.com everywhere else.

May 11, 2011

The Battle of the Bolt – Consistently Inconsistent Customer Service

If you follow me on Twitter, you might have seen my mini-rants over the last month or so, about the problems of replacing a broken bolt for my cross-trainer. ‘What’s that got to do with a blog about business communication?!’ I hear you cry! Well, read on and all will be revealed…

My cross-trainer has never been one of those that stands in the corner, gathering dust and guilt. Since it arrived in January 2009, I’ve used it nearly every day. So you can imagine my frustration – not to mention mild shock! – when I was ‘ski-ing’ away one evening – and the left ‘ski’ suddenly gave way! Had I fallen into a virtual snow hole? No, the pedal hinge bolt had sheered off.

So the next morning, I went in search of a new one. I started with the manufacturers (who I won’t name). Yes, they said, of course I could have a replacement. No, they said, it wouldn’t cost me anything. I could claim on the warrantee – provided I had the serial number. This, I was assured, I would find on a sticker on the machine.

I didn’t. I looked everywhere – I even turned the thing upside-down – no mean feat, I can tell you!; but the only sticker I found just repeated the information about make, model number etc, which I’d already seen in the manual.

So I rang the manufacturers back. ‘Oh dear!’ they said, ‘well, without the serial number, it’ll cost you twenty-five pounds for a new bolt.’ Twenty-five quid?! The whole unit only cost about £250! Were they seriously suggesting one simple bolt was worth ten percent of the total?! ‘Why is it so expensive?’ I wanted to know. ‘Ah, well,’ said the representative sombrely, ‘you see, we have to import them from China.’… Hang on a minute…I might be wrong here, but don’t we import stuff from China because it’s cheaper…?

Trying a different tack the following day (after yet another hunt for the all-important digits), another rep explained, ‘Well, if anything’s going to go on those things, it’ll be the pedal hinge bolt. Takes all your weight, you see.’ He’d said I could have a spare screw I needed for next to nothing, ‘because we stock those. We just don’t stock the bolts.’So why, I wondered, if the pedal hinge bolt was the most likely thing to give way, didn’t they stock those as well? Surely it would be easier and cheaper for all concerned? He couldn’t answer that.

He eventually referred me to Argos, assuring me they would have the serial number on their home delivery records.

The short end of a long story is that after several circuits of Argos’s telephone network, I finally spoke to a very helpful rep, who said she could give me every number I could possibly want re my cross-trainer – except the serial number. They gave me another number to try, saying it would take me to a different department within the manufacturers – but it actually took me to another department within Argos – which I’d already visited more than once on my trips around their phone system!

It was no good, I thought. I was just going to have to bite the bolt and pay the twenty-five pounds.

Resigned to my fate, I rang the manufacturers again.

This time, when I gave a potted history of the mystery tour which had brought me to this point, the latest rep said, ‘Oh, well, I think we can let you have one of those. If it was a computer you needed, we’d have to charge – but one bolt isn’t going to be a problem. It’ll be with you in seven working days.’

It arrived this morning – WHOOOPEEEEEE!!!

So what’s my point? Well, almost everyone I spoke to, at both Argos and the manufacturers, was friendly and helpful – and it’s great that the last man was able to solve my problem – but why couldn’t someone have taken that approach a month ago – before I ran up my phone bill – and nearly did my back in, looking for that serial number? Of course I’m not suggesting there should be a free for all when it comes to warrantees, but if you can prove purchase (which I can), it’s clearly possible to be flexible. It’s just a pity that not everyone on the customer service team is aware of this.

Over the last several months, I’ve been working with Ivan Newman of Living Inside The Brand, on a series of audio-visual downloads about customer service (check them out on YouTube).  The subject of consistency has come up – well, consistently.

Why haven’t I named the manufacturer? Because if my eventual saviour bent the rules for me, the last thing I want to do is highlight that fact and get him into trouble. To be honest, I think he deserves a commendation!

March 10, 2010

M&S Speak Volumes About Their Brand

I bought my very first interview suit at Marks and Spencer, back in 1986, when I was eighteen.  It was a grey pin-stripe – very conservative – and a long way from anything you’re likely to see me in these days!  I can’t remember when I last shopped there, but I’m obviously still on their customer database, because I recently received the latest of their regular audio updates –which also means that somewhere along the line, they’ve logged the fact that I have a visual impairment.  All good marketing and customer service practice.

There’s only one small issue: these communications come on cassette.  Now, I may have missed something, but I thought the company had put in a lot of work over the last few years, to modernise its brand.  I thought they were trying to get away from the image of staid ladies whose sense of style began and ended with ‘sensible’ knickers.  Recent ad campaigns seem to be trying to target women across a wide age range who care about fashion and for whom maturity means more style, not less.  They want me, as a potential customer, to believe that like me, Marks has moved with the times – and yet they communicate with me in an outmoded format, which most people I know couldn’t even play.  Do you still own a cassette player?  I do – but then, as a media junky, I’ve got almost every option you can think of for playing the stuff.  That said, I never listen to these tapes.  If they came as mp3s, I probably would, but the cassettes just get recycled.

I don’t know how many customers the tapes go out to and how many of those still have the means to play them.  What I do know is that Marks’ target audience is also the sector of the market where mp3 player ownership is growing.  I can’t help feeling that either sweeping assumptions have been made about the audience, or (worse) they’ve gone on doing what they’ve done for years and haven’t included this in their modernising strategies.  Either way, it sends me the wrong messages:

1 – M&S isn’t really moving with the times, and/or

2 – they don’t know the sector of their market to which I belong.  They don’t talk to me in my language – or even ask me what that language is.  They talk at me in a way they think I want, or should want, so I don’t feel inclined to listen to what they have to say.

Marks’ customers with visual impairments will be a small percentage of their total customer base, of course.  So you might think this is a very small issue; but there are wider implications.  As we all know in business, if we do one thing which is inconsistent with our core message, at best it doesn’t reinforce what we really want to say and at worst, it undermines it.

 

In case you’re wondering, no, I’m not just going to sit here complaining.  I intend to make contact with the relevant people within the organisation to chat through their options with them.  I’ll let you know how I get on.

February 15, 2010

ITFS Website – Exciting New Addition coming soon

From Ray Stannard of International Trade Financial Solutions
Check out the new website at http://www.inttradefinsolns.co.uk

Many of you will know that I carry on my website links to certain other businesses where I think that there may be benefits to anyone who uses my site. Although I have used some on a business basis, others provide services that I do not need, such as freight forwarding, so I cannot actually recommend them per se. However, I am happy to include them after having met with them and understood how they work and their approach to customer service. In all cases, though, to preserve my own impartiality, I always suggest that any client undertakes their own research to ensure that they are comfortable with the service/advice/price, etc. etc.

The list is not fixed in tablets of stone and names will be added/taken off from time to time; what is important is that they remain relevant and the list is kept to a manageable size. Feedback is always appreciated – both good and bad – from anyone who has used any of the suppliers that I list.

One area that I have not featured to date is that of FX providers – there are several reasons with which I will not bore you. However, I will shortly add a link to the website that will give access to real time indicative spot rates as well as a direct link to a FX provider where you can ask specific exchange rate related enquiries. Whilst the FX market is largely unregulated, i.e. not FSA covered, the giving of advice re future exchange rate trends, as well as the actual booking of contracts does have various safeguards. It is for this reason that ITFS looks at the overall policies and procedures that our clients have/should have in place with their overseas buying and selling, but does not provide the ultimate product service; instead we will refer to experts with proven links. I’m sure this new link will add a valuable service, especially to those who may just be monitoring the current rate. So, look out for it coming on the Home Page, lower left hand side, and let me know your thoughts.

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